Agreed on the strategy/execution point. In my naive world, the strategy should come from the client (indeed it should inhabit every pore of the organisation) and the various creative organisations should create executions of it.

DIG is not a bad strategy once you understand what it is but the trouble for me is that, until I started discussing it with the plannersphere, I didn't get it and I'm not sure that the public does. For them, even within the context of washing powder/liquid advertising, dirt isn't good, it's a pain in the arse because it involves doing more washing etc. The reaction therefore is, I fear, " huh" or worse still, "what a stupid ad".

If they heard "dirt isn't bad" or "kids + dirt = fun" or "kids get dirty, it's their job" then I think the comprehension might be greater and the good thinking behind the strategy might have abetter chance of breathing. But I'm not an ad guy so what do I know?

On the below the line argument, I'm less convinced. As we've agreed before, all marketing has to be about "selling" in some sense, so I would ascribe a definite "selling" element to "the brand thing" as well as to direct communication.

It's not about being above or below the line (which I always saw as something of a intra-industry status delineator anyway), isn't it just that the line has disappeared?

Great post. And I do agree with your comments—as I had to search to find what Persil actually was. The idea and message behind the campaign is great, but if I were to follow it's message I don't know if I would choose Persil over my detergent.

First of all, that's an absolutely brilliant picture.

The overall role of 'advertising' as a medium (encompassing more than just TV) will always remain the same for me - being efficient & dramatising can sit side by side.

However, the use of TV advertising as a leader to other channels will precipitate far more focused thinking when TV is used as the trigger for the bigger brand idea.

In fact - that's what TV advertising will, I think, become. Far from flashing a URL on screen (as some brands have been doing, tremendously clumsily), as the historians say - it will become a 'trigger cause' to other types of communication.

This will, I hope, help get rid of sloppy dramatisations.

Great points.

I LOVE what you've proposed about flipping the "roles" of advertising and digital. Not that far off of a prediction from where I sit.

P.S. There's an argument to be made that truly effective advertising has to have those who think the ad is "bad".

This is a great extension of your four bubbles model and raises even more questions -- if you place consumers at the gravitational core of the four bubbles, what happens as the bubbles begin to merge venn-diagram style? Then, changing that around, what happens if strategy is placed at the same gravitational core?

Perhaps on one hand you end up with TV as the "trigger cause" as Will suggests. But on the other, there will be a deeper and ongoing questioning about channels and their effectiveness (and the choice of channel for particular focus -- eg choosing TVCs for brand promise). And as this shift occurs we will need better and more standardised methods for measuring effectiveness.

More to think about! But you are being very provocative lately!

All I know is that TV advertising (and I mean ads on TV not the distribution of moving image by other means)is damn expensive. Perhaps not as expensive as it once was but still damn expensive.

Seems to me its most powerful role is as the shock troops of the comms landscape - in and out but boy do you know you have seen it. And it has to be aggressively commerical.

I like your last line.

"Or are we saying that a strategy is only as good as the work the present agency of choice is able to rustle up?

In this case study, the communications strategy has been let down by the creative execution..

Internet penetration is highest among A-C1s; those in work...and consequentely, lowest among females. So she is either going to be too busy with work and parenthood to embark on the digital journey of why DiG or the interent simply isn't top of mind for a commodity product..

So all those great reasons to believe are fine, but they are merely supports, extra's. In other words, great at enhancing the product/brand proposition should the audience have the inclination/time to delve deeper!

So whilst the TV ads tell us that dirt is good and valuable to the well-being of children, it doesn't actually provide the reassurance that Persil will clean their clothes after the playful mess has been created. And in that very moment, the execution fails; the balance between the practical requirements and long term emotional gain is biased.

The problem in this scenario, is to return clothes to their normal acceptable state...Not how to ensure my child has a productive childhood. And this is exactly what the TV ads should have focused on.

Had this approach been considered, the connection between 'dirt is good' and 'clean clothes are even better' could have been introduced on pack/in pack and of course supported with the PR, CSR, internet etc etc.

MM.

Great post again, R.

Maybe this knotty problem serves to reveals our obsession with messaging and 'digital' communication.

For me it highlights the need to think about what behaviours we can deploy to make an idea sing (rather than just which channels to use, their relative merits, costs etc).

And what behaviours we want the public to start/stop/increase (beyond just buying) as opposed to trying changing their minds...persuading them etc

If you really wanted to make the p.o.v of Dirt is Good famous, what would the brand have to do? And what would we want them

Granty's Enthusiasm musings likely to be useful here...

Good stuff

agree with the role of advertising bit ... it does kind of assume that everyone will see everything though

I am a stickler for a well honed proposition. But if you want a 'doing' campaign rather than a 'saying' campaign you can do worse than writing a 'role for communication' only brief. In other words, instead of the proposition asking for a peice of communication that says dirt is good you have a task led brief that asks that we MAKE dirt good.

Muck is Great!

That one's "on the house" if you credit me BIG somewhere.

Seriously though, I've done the thinking on this one so follow this train (of thought) to the station (conclusion) of Bacon (ROI):

1) People buy washing powder because their clothes are a disgrace.
2) Therefore dirt ISN'T good but washing powder IS
3) Persil is Good (PiG) is the logical conclusion.

I'm not as strong on the creative as I am on INSIGHT, but my initial idea would be a picture of a filthy person (there are hundreds of them around, just look out the window) with the strapline:

"Persil can DEFINITELY get rid of this crap (PiG)"

That's what I call a doing AND done campaign. Work's over! Make mine a 'jee and tea'!

Ooh Mrs Belmot. You're so masterful when you talk filthy.

I guess the whole DIG strategy is a good one from a creative point of view and appeals to creative types, but, if you are going to use a strategy as creatively cute as this then you had better have a bloody good product that backs it up.

Has anyone ever tried it out? I have. As sad as it may sound, (just curious rather than sad) I tested Persil, a supermarket own and a cheap frills one on 3 new white tee shirts. Washed them all separately with no other stuff in the drum (not natural thing to do but to give an equal footing to all) and all on the same settings.

Result: The Persil one was the worst out of the three. The best was the cheapest. Why? I don't know - more bleach or chemicals may actually be worse to clothing after long periods of use, again, I don't know.

The point is and I feel that this strategy is just not commercial and as such fails because of it.

Look around. Most mums do everything they can to keep their kids clean and if their washing pile is as big as the one in our house then I can understand why.

Kids clothing is expensive these days, almost if not more than clothing for adults and who would want their kids to ruin the clothes? You may as well chuck the money down the drain???

Seriously ask yourselves, what mother is going to let their kid get covered in shite with their £100 lacoste tracksuits and timberland boots in bootle liverpool. Would anyone go out and play sunday football in an armani suit?

Don't get me wrong, creative freedom and expression is good but lets switch to art. Kid wants to finger paint firts thing i would do would be to use a plastic apron or some old clothes that you wouldn't mind if they got dirty, this is common sense and widley practiced.

Anyway, washing clothes is a chore and I don't know anyone who enjoys it. Perhaps if strategies were based on 'time saving initiatives for mums' or make-washing-a-fun-activity in some way (now there's a challenge) then maybe, just maybe they would shift more product?

I wonder what has happened in the world of advertising, it seems that the only experimentation these days is for creativity sake and to suit the agency creative agenda. I have always thought and live by rule number one: be commercial but in the most creative and engaging way possible! not the other way round.

Managing the tension between art and commerce? maybe the elastic has snapped?

Warning : planner-working-in-PR-bias-mode engaged.

Perhaps what is very good about the DiG strategy is it's potential as a tipping point (Malcolm Gladwell) or mass behaviour changing (Mark Earls and his Herd) nature. {Mark - you are in a new Pantheon!}

As John Lowery points out, your mass mums don't give two hoots about dirt and play; it is only the chattering/middle classes who relate to this. And it is only very specialist child psychologists/social commentators who are truly worked up about it.

But is this not how social trends happen?

As a parelell the middle classes have been obsessing about their children's diets and weights for some time now and giving McDonalds a right bashing as a result. Jamie Oliver is a late entrant to this trend but definitely helping it "tip" into being a majority view in recent years.

As evidence if you look at the tabloids a current favourite is "Britain's fattest kid" pictures. So we have a middle class point of view (obesity is bad), supported by technical experts that is about to become embraced by "ordinary mums" (perhaps).

And so could DiG follow the same trajectory? A bunch of geeks/experts/mavens (including planners) find their idea taken up by an advocate (Persil) who recruits a bunch of noisy connectors (Middle Class mums) who after a year or two, find the mass media picking up on their behaviour and thus influencing the "ordinary mums" who (as a Earles-esque "herd") find themselves all strangely drawn to this zeitgeisty Persil brand.

Thing about this model is you wouldn't do mass-advertising at the front end at all. You'd wait until your opinion formers were up and running first. But I am an advertising apostate these days, so i might say that. Excommunicate me if it helps keep your internal belief system intact.

Anyhow - this explanantion also helps us planners get round the class self-loathing that is tickled by Lowery's observation that "we" all like it but the people in groups don't. Perhaps we're right and they will all come to imitate our splendid middle class child rearing ideas.

Until then, let them eat Ariel.

Jon - I mentioned tipping points in my blog last year and NO-ONE had a clue what I was talking about. In case there's any confusion, find out more here:
http://www.mole-valley.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1209

Look its hard enough being a pompous planner without you taking the piss.

Rubbish link anyhow, sniff...

Has anyone seen the Sunlight work from Canada? It preceded the Persil work by some years (think it was 2003 or 4) - and I'd be amazed if it wasn't the inspiration behind it. The proposition was 'Sunlight is an invitation to get dirty'. Brilliant. It highlights the power of the product in a way that the Persil work doesn't. Persil celebrates dirt, Sunlight celebrated its cleaning powers.

Charming work and a better thought.

You are sleep deprived, working a job as well as being a mother. Your day is filled with important choices and correspondent anxieties. A commercial comes onto the box when you've found a minute for a breather and a cup of tea;...Dirt is Good. The tea shoots out your nose in a spray of indignation.

a) Give me a break, you've duped me into watching a daft vignette,Lord of the Flies meets Logan's Run, then pulled the rug out with a tenuous premise and,

b) who do you think you are? You manufacture soap powder. Don't moralise to me about play and create the ludicrous link to dirt being an essential component of a healthy, decent childhood. It may be true, but it is not for you to say. I feel guilty enough as it is about the fact that my kids don't grow up in the same freewheeling carefree world that I did, unsupervised in parks and on beaches (growing up in New Zealand is something I recommend to all children), but now there is the looming threat of stranger danger, a gigantic hole in the ozone and the pressure to whisk the kids from one activity to another...just get real and get lost. The last thing I need is to be reminded of my parenting lack and limitations of 21st Century life.

Must dash, it's 11pm and I've a got a pile of ironing to do...